tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post3822316403768485134..comments2024-03-25T11:49:21.281-07:00Comments on The Splintered Mind: On the Boycott of Urbana-ChampaignEric Schwitzgebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-62259419898508827122014-09-13T06:59:48.273-07:002014-09-13T06:59:48.273-07:00Nothing against casinos -- just reluctant to cross...Nothing against casinos -- just reluctant to cross any picket line, regardless of whether I agree with the protesters. (A casino comes to mind because it was a real case.) Not an absolute rule. My reluctance doesn't mean I conceive myself on their "team" except in such a broad sense as to stretch the meaning of the word.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-16560119820181235282014-09-11T17:35:59.981-07:002014-09-11T17:35:59.981-07:00Well, 'team' can be pretty large if you be...Well, 'team' can be pretty large if you become a vegetarian as well, given you're trying to not eat any other creatures on the planet. Though would some of them have the same concern in regards to eating you? Indeed if you were made of grass, would the majority of them of them hold the same concern?<br /><br />Don't want to see anyone such a sweetheart (to use your term) that they are getting devoured by their own team.<br /><br />Side note: I'm not sure what the reference to Vegas refers to? Against gambling (or more exactly the fairly ruthless manipulation involved)?Callan S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15373053356095440571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-69700448178810961602014-09-09T09:20:09.443-07:002014-09-09T09:20:09.443-07:00I'm pulled more than one way on more than one ...I'm pulled more than one way on more than one issue here, Callan. Not sure I can fully articulate it in a way I would find satisfying. One thought: "team" can be a pretty large concept, if it encompasses my motivation for not crossing a picket line at (say) a Vegas casino.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-90930915518437132372014-09-08T23:31:35.905-07:002014-09-08T23:31:35.905-07:00The one that might wish to honour the intentions b...The one that might wish to honour the intentions behind it, isn't that the same one who is there if no one was boycotting them?<br /><br />I think yours is actually the wrong refutation. If you want to choose to marry your will to an organisation so that they start making (some of) your choices for you, I think that's a viable choice (people joing political parties all the time, after all, and allow the parties sway to decide some of their actions). That would be an apt refutation.<br /><br />But otherwise no, unless you wanted to honour the concept of the boycott before (even if no one else was boycotting), then you don't want to honour that boycott.<br /><br />How can a picket line matter if the group setting it don't happen to give a crap about you? So I can't say I really grasp 'don't cross a picket line' as a significant statement unless it's as some sort of reciprical team work. But if I'm not on the team, it'd just strike me as being a threat. No team benefit AND I have to obey them? Really?Callan S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15373053356095440571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-12752958524901906032014-08-27T15:02:16.412-07:002014-08-27T15:02:16.412-07:00Thanks, Paul!
Callan: I think that is actually th...Thanks, Paul!<br /><br />Callan: I think that is actually the wrong question. Dishonoring a boycott is (to some extent, not entirely) like crossing a picket line. Even if one disagrees that a boycott or strike was a good idea (and I was on the fence about that), one might still wish to honor the intentions behind it and not send the contrary signal that would be sent by violating it.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-37947353865181309442014-08-26T22:14:52.610-07:002014-08-26T22:14:52.610-07:00What I'd consider is if no one else was boycot...What I'd consider is if no one else was boycotting them, would I go or would I stay away?Callan S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15373053356095440571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-9025408120426636532014-08-26T10:03:24.680-07:002014-08-26T10:03:24.680-07:00Thoughtful thoughts. Thanks for this!Thoughtful thoughts. Thanks for this!Paul Baerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00296242925808155588noreply@blogger.com