tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post8778656337185721904..comments2024-03-28T19:14:33.619-07:00Comments on The Splintered Mind: Council of UC Faculty Associations Statement on "Civility" and Academic FreedomEric Schwitzgebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-22695821926512040692014-09-13T06:56:20.214-07:002014-09-13T06:56:20.214-07:00Callan, you're right that it's not really ...Callan, you're right that it's not really enforceable, except through indirect means.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-60368600252369718692014-09-12T17:26:24.678-07:002014-09-12T17:26:24.678-07:00Seems like 'civility' gets hijacked - used...Seems like 'civility' gets hijacked - used for 'don't talk about X', and then it can't be used for 'don't glower at the students'<br /><br /><i>do not have any right to interfere in these processes</i><br /><br />And how is that enforced, if at all?<br /><br />Sounds like a chancellor simply figured the 'this property has a security alarm' sticker was...just a sticker.Callan S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15373053356095440571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-37517362187549541402014-09-12T13:44:03.950-07:002014-09-12T13:44:03.950-07:00Yes, I think that's right, P.D. I wasn't ...Yes, I think that's right, P.D. I wasn't sure how to interpret the clause, hence the qualification at the beginning of my comment. How does one one behave at faculty meetings? How does one treat graduate students in the hallway? I think civil behavior in these professional contexts can probably sometimes be legitimate to consider as one factor among many in making a hiring decision. Now maybe that does fit under service and teaching, broadly construed, in which case maybe I'd be okay with the clause.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-85528738918180398782014-09-12T10:46:28.963-07:002014-09-12T10:46:28.963-07:00Eric: It seems to me that your reservation at the ...Eric: It seems to me that your reservation at the end is compatible with the denial that "civility, per se, be added ... as a valid category in the academic personnel process". Collegiality figures in the assessment of service, and classroom environment figures in the assessment of teaching. But it is service and teaching that matter, rather than civility per se.P.D. Magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07799239684943144310noreply@blogger.com