tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post8809655433514314691..comments2024-03-25T11:49:21.281-07:00Comments on The Splintered Mind: New Essay: Experimental Evidence of the Existence of an External WorldEric Schwitzgebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-87200866990960816422013-01-22T13:12:14.217-08:002013-01-22T13:12:14.217-08:00@ p.c.: We acknowledge that possibility and don...@ p.c.: We acknowledge that possibility and don't claim that our results rule it out. Radical solipsism, as we define it, would be false even if the only thing that exists other than my stream of conscious experience is my unconscious mind.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-5602640756061242332013-01-20T21:16:07.708-08:002013-01-20T21:16:07.708-08:00If you are dreaming your experiment, how can you k...If you are dreaming your experiment, how can you know if there's a real world?<br />Perhaps your mind is divided in two parts: conscious and unconscious.<br />Best regards,<br />P.C.p.c.http://pablocontursi.com.arnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-76424842636754129322013-01-11T17:19:51.512-08:002013-01-11T17:19:51.512-08:00Our discussion here has got so abstract and deriva...Our discussion here has got so abstract and derivative, I've lost the thread. If you're interested to try again to frame your idea, I'd like to hear.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-60826977664860267352013-01-11T16:58:30.726-08:002013-01-11T16:58:30.726-08:00I thought you meant, rather than mapping your own ...I thought you meant, rather than mapping your own incapacity to remember numbers/letters, to map 'the other way' as you seemed to say? Mapping your own incapacities I got, but mapping the other way boggles me? I'm quite lost there? Maybe I didn't understand your mention of mapping the other way? Anyway, if it's interesting to continue with, otherwise just adding a sub note to my prior comments :)Callan S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15373053356095440571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-69377461280705065582013-01-10T16:25:21.827-08:002013-01-10T16:25:21.827-08:00I'm not sure I understand your concern, Callan...I'm not sure I understand your concern, Callan. But the idea of the experiment is to use letter and number combination that are beyond my ability of remember but that I can see in retrospect have been consistent over time because the parts that I do remember fit into a stable pattern that I had not been able to see until later.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-36350423296492805832013-01-10T15:48:51.164-08:002013-01-10T15:48:51.164-08:00Is that mapable, Eric? Especially given the very t...Is that mapable, Eric? Especially given the very topic? Really complicated and literally impossible to remember number combinations? I'd almost think your only way to map in the other direction is to map yourself, for that's as much as your going to grasp of it's shape is where your shape ends in it?<br /><br />Am I understanding your question (to some degree, atleast)? Callan S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15373053356095440571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-64519747112489969722013-01-09T13:25:01.076-08:002013-01-09T13:25:01.076-08:00Callan, I'd be more inclined to map the other ...Callan, I'd be more inclined to map the other direction: What does the universe give me that I cannot provide myself?Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-6770614803188822992013-01-09T03:27:31.480-08:002013-01-09T03:27:31.480-08:00I was thinking, what if you mapped the extent of i...I was thinking, what if you mapped the extent of it, what do you get? Like remembering three digit numbers? Okay, simplify it and test it again. Then simplify it again until you get it right every time. Then do that for other tests.<br /><br />If each type of test is like an angle, a direction, then a series of these is like a map.<br /><br />What does it map?Callan S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15373053356095440571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-41762936287518897202012-12-31T07:50:54.148-08:002012-12-31T07:50:54.148-08:00Thanks for the tip, Charles! I hadn't noticed...Thanks for the tip, Charles! I hadn't noticed that one. I'll check it out.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-83433779469300423742012-12-30T07:37:46.772-08:002012-12-30T07:37:46.772-08:00Neat paper. Are you familiar with Burge's &quo...Neat paper. Are you familiar with Burge's "Computer Proof, A Priori Knowledge, and Other Minds"? It has a (much) longer argument for a roughly similar conclusion about the existence of an intelligence other than oneself.Charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-49284308339589490472012-12-29T11:16:44.121-08:002012-12-29T11:16:44.121-08:00Maybe I should have left that spam there, rather t...Maybe I should have left that spam there, rather than deleting it, clasqm. Then your comment would make more sense.<br /><br />(However, the spam is insufficiently clever to provide evidence of a non-solipsistic source, by the pattern of reasoning I use in the linked paper.)Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-63182187157539473772012-12-28T23:17:24.394-08:002012-12-28T23:17:24.394-08:00Looks like the outside world decided to prove its ...Looks like the outside world decided to prove its own existence!clasqmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12812785541545674276noreply@blogger.com