tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post1499822920704498571..comments2024-03-18T23:49:35.716-07:00Comments on The Splintered Mind: Two Kinds of Ethical Thinking?Eric Schwitzgebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-60450267467839263132019-12-13T12:55:44.873-08:002019-12-13T12:55:44.873-08:00Eric:
Maybe this is a stereotype: ethics is conce...Eric:<br /><br />Maybe this is a stereotype: ethics is concerned with correct behavior and judgment and is impersonal, even when concerned with personal behavior.<br />Psychology and religion are concerned with individual people and their well being.<br />Abstract philosophy is liable to abuse specifically because it is concerned with being right and passing judgment and not with people and their needs and well being and happiness, and people and ethicists being who they are, they will do harmful things to people because by the nature of their project they are not concerned with human beings as such.<br />Perhaps they should take a Hippocratic Oathhoward bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-2432029300585957762019-12-12T12:52:42.441-08:002019-12-12T12:52:42.441-08:00...isn't that global attitudes for sustaining ......isn't that global attitudes for sustaining Life on our planet are all that are front of us now... <br /><br />...'the unexamined Life is not worth living' has influenced our Lives for 2500 years; for some of us travelers personal-communal worth is part of global worth...Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02580641063222662041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-80478584780916693682019-12-12T11:06:24.321-08:002019-12-12T11:06:24.321-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02580641063222662041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-2452912172780418962019-12-12T09:16:51.918-08:002019-12-12T09:16:51.918-08:00Eric: I just meant to point to a middle ground bet...Eric: I just meant to point to a middle ground between saying that the two things "are ends of a continuum" and saying that they "are walled off from each other without mutual influence", namely that they are different in kind but might effect each other.<br />Maybe understanding general principles has two possible effects. It might sharpen one's perceptual sensitivity somewhat, by making moral factors more salient. Or it might dull one's sensitivity, by making one overlook real-world values in the way James describes.<br />If these two effects play out variously in the population, they might wash out on average.P.D. Magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07799239684943144310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-48273882733498168532019-12-11T15:30:32.558-08:002019-12-11T15:30:32.558-08:00P.D.: Yes, that seems right. But here's one t...P.D.: Yes, that seems right. But here's one thing I wouldn't infer (not that you're implying it): If skill X requires both A and B, improving B is on average useless. (A = perceptual sensitivity, B = understanding of general principles; of course it's not really that simple.)<br /><br />Howard: Different disciplines will work differently -- not that I'd necessarily defer to Rogers on this point without further thought.<br /><br />Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274774112862434865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-14108952350946060952019-12-11T11:12:03.828-08:002019-12-11T11:12:03.828-08:00It seems to me that moral life requires a certain ...It seems to me that moral life requires a certain kind of perceptual sensitivity, noticing the morally relevant aspects of the situation. And that kind of awareness might be different in kind than the ability to construct arguments, even though honing one will can effect the development of the other.<br /><br />Furthermore (I think) perceptual abilities are context sensitive. So one cannot develop them in general. This encourages what William James calls the sentimentalist fallacy, "to shed tears over abstract justice and generosity, beauty, etc., and never to know these qualities when you meet them in the street, because the circumstances make them vulgar."P.D. Magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07799239684943144310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-57124804553834548862019-12-11T10:37:29.268-08:002019-12-11T10:37:29.268-08:00analogies to religious leaders and psychiatrists a...analogies to religious leaders and psychiatrists and to psychologists: Carl Rogers wrote that therapists must be compassionate and caring and all that goes with these things while in session, but not in their personal life; still I can imagine that someone like Yalom is deep and caring and present in his personal life.<br />What's the difference?howard bnoreply@blogger.com