tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post518342486930983529..comments2024-03-28T19:14:33.619-07:00Comments on The Splintered Mind: Comparing Three (No, Four) Top 20 Lists in PhilosophyEric Schwitzgebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11541402189204286449noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-47336248166329325752023-08-15T19:20:18.790-07:002023-08-15T19:20:18.790-07:00It is very funny that Chomsky, David Lewis, Kripke...It is very funny that Chomsky, David Lewis, Kripke, Fodor, etc. are not in the Google Scholar profiles in "philosophy" just because the tags attached to them are "philosophy of language", "logic", "mind", etc. (without philosophy)AnduinWildehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01264166444652198858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-39003862319837959352023-08-15T19:18:33.505-07:002023-08-15T19:18:33.505-07:00It is very funny that Chomsky, David Lewis, Fodor,...It is very funny that Chomsky, David Lewis, Fodor, Kripke, etc. are not in Google Scholar profiles in "philosophy" just because their tags are "philosophy of language", "logic", "mind", etc. (without philosophy!)AnduinWildehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01264166444652198858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-33293221837163551082021-12-11T15:48:26.596-08:002021-12-11T15:48:26.596-08:00Anon Dec 10: Yes, good point!Anon Dec 10: Yes, good point!Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274774112862434865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-15039811499388895592021-12-10T19:05:28.600-08:002021-12-10T19:05:28.600-08:00The origin of PhilPapers might be a reason for a r...The origin of PhilPapers might be a reason for a relative overrepresentation (or more accurate representation, I think) of philosophers of mind, including Kim, Dennett, Chalmers, Block, Burge, and probably Goldman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-86421661445511597492021-12-07T09:52:51.567-08:002021-12-07T09:52:51.567-08:00Thanks for the comments, folks!
Matti: I agree it...Thanks for the comments, folks!<br /><br />Matti: I agree it would be fascinating to see such a ranking from 100 years ago! Based on some citation analyses I've done, I'd guess that some people would be very highly regarded who aren't nearly as influential today, like Comte, Spencer, and Bergson. From the fact that such a ranking would be fascinating, I draw the conclusion that such a ranking today is worth creating and discussing as a sociological artifact, which allows us to justify saying things like "David Lewis is hugely influential in mainstream Anglophone philosophy" and will someday allow historians to utter the same sentence in the past tense.<br /><br />Phil and SelfAware: Yes, I agree that these are concerns, hard to pull apart from this process of ranking.<br /><br />Giovanni: It's true that the PGR is U.S. based but I think it draws roughly proportionately from U.K., Canada, and Australia also (roughly proportionately, that is, to the number of philosophers at PhD-granting institutions). I'm open to correction about this. If I recall correctly, it used to also show rankings by raters in the home country, which tended to align with overall rankings except with a positive local bias. In my view, the bigger concern is that it's exclusively Anglophone in an academic world that is becoming increasingly globalized.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274774112862434865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-63152724771329069922021-12-05T19:13:55.023-08:002021-12-05T19:13:55.023-08:00A few things to note:
- Leiter reports and SEP are...A few things to note:<br />- Leiter reports and SEP are both US-based, and I always felt that Leiter reports was biased towards a more American-centric vision of what good philosophy is. No doubt the SEP list, Leiter reports and the Leiter list based on the SEP are convergent. But I wonder if this only shows that Americans share the same prejudices. I suspect that if we had a British equivalent of Leiter and SEP we would get VERY different results!<br />- The ccitations on the philpapers database can't be taken seriously. That database can only retrieve citations for texts that have been uploaded to philarchive, and that is not a balanced sample (only very recent papers).Giovanninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-79459256388562836912021-12-05T12:33:13.124-08:002021-12-05T12:33:13.124-08:00https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-020-20226-9 ... thi...https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-020-20226-9 ... this link/site is about changing peoples biases beliefs ethics morals by 'argumentum ad sciences...psychology, neurology, geography...'Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02580641063222662041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-4699680665416627952021-12-05T12:17:31.521-08:002021-12-05T12:17:31.521-08:00Really interesting. The SEP ranking seems an accur...Really interesting. The SEP ranking seems an accurate rating of philosophers of other philosophers. That is important because it is a) a fairly accurate account of what experts in the field regard as most influential, and b) a sign of incestuas-ness (is that a word? No) or clubby-ness. By contrast, the other rankings are influenced who are either a) philosophically unsophisticated or b) not in the club. I prefer the a) answers, but I worry about the b) issue.Phil Ossofeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05373104366233436757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-9736567515680468072021-12-05T11:06:51.054-08:002021-12-05T11:06:51.054-08:00It is fascinating that we make such lists, mostly ...It is fascinating that we make such lists, mostly irrelevant, about so many things. One wonders what a similar list written 100 years ago would include and, oddly, one also wonders why philosophers of all people, are not more sensitive to the fallacy “Argumentum ad populum.”Matti Meikäläinennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-59338593725103342312021-12-05T06:57:03.576-08:002021-12-05T06:57:03.576-08:00Similar to Dan P, when I see citations used to mea...Similar to Dan P, when I see citations used to measure influence, I always wonder how many of those citations are of something taken to be an authoritative source, or for purposes of refuting what that source said. Some citations seem to be of the type noting that, for completeness, there are alternate fringe views, and here's an example. <br /><br />Although I suppose getting everyone to say you're wrong, or even just acknowledge you as the crazy fringe theorist, is a type of influence.SelfAwarePatternshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856665627652130336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-28877079735321968082021-12-04T11:01:18.081-08:002021-12-04T11:01:18.081-08:00https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-020-20226-9
"...https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-020-20226-9<br /><br />"Psychological characteristics associated with COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy and resistance in Ireland and the United Kingdom"...Abstract and introduction<br /><br />Is all philosophy today only social...<br />...do philosophers today use this kind of language/mind for the human condition...<br /><br />Is morality different but necessary to know and understand for our survival...<br />...on this planet...Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02580641063222662041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-60984203543530634882021-12-02T17:38:11.343-08:002021-12-02T17:38:11.343-08:00We are a culture addicted to various types of meri...We are a culture addicted to various types of merit ranking schemes. Why is that?Matti Meikäläinennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-36025539968262528952021-12-02T11:48:54.005-08:002021-12-02T11:48:54.005-08:00Ha! There's a counterpart of you in another p...Ha! There's a counterpart of you in another possible world who completely disagrees.Eric Schwitzgebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274774112862434865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26951738.post-69132283603958210642021-12-02T10:47:53.000-08:002021-12-02T10:47:53.000-08:00What would be the effect on these lists of filteri...What would be the effect on these lists of filtering according who is most likely to be wrong?<br /><br />The number one spot would still go to David Lewis. Daniel Polowetzky https://www.blogger.com/profile/04299950687312400826noreply@blogger.com